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Quote from: wallworm on January 18, 2016, 09:29:05 AMTry manually adding a Vertex Weld Modifier on top of the modifier stack and then adding your Turbosmooth.

Yes, that worked, thanks :D

Quote from: SairesArt on January 18, 2016, 09:08:23 AM
Images in next post:
(image 5), (image 6), (image 7), (image 8 )

5. original
6. original wireframe
7. subdiv wireframe
8. subdiv shows flat shading

render:

Quote from: wallworm on January 13, 2016, 10:32:58 PM

Here we go again:
1. Bug report from skype
2. Bug report
3. Question


1.
Last time I showed that Tree MultiSubmap import problem. It's no problem to me, as it can quickly replace all errors

Certain models with multisubmap props, where skin is changing not all textures, but only a part of the prop, vmf-import only as a non-sub multimap material and ignore the rest of the mats.
Simpler:
Tree has a material for leaves and a material for tree trunk. A skin change does not replace all textures and leaves certain textures (tree trunk) the same, while changing other (leaves)
These models fail to import correctly with the VMF map importer (image 1)
However, imported with the QC/SMD importer everything imports perfectly and just fine (image 2)
These concerns other models aswell

As requested mdl/smd/qc + textures provided here: http://www.saires.de/server/misc/tree.zip

This is propably a fault of the model setup and is a low priority bug. No fixing is actually needed.

2.
This one I tought was eradicated, when you updated the importer to remove the missing vertex bug. It seems, it still exists:
Certain Displacements import in a streched? collapsed? and broken manner. I can quickly rebuild it on my own though and this concerns only some random displacements, which are big in size.
Apperently (too small sample size to say for sure) these concerns only random concave, not convex displacements.
(Image 3), (Image 4). (note: bad viewport material is due to using non-standart materials for a renderer)
Rebuild problematic geomtry doesn't help. Other buttons neither.

Low priority bug. No immideate fixing is actually needed, as it only concerns rare random ones.

3.
I would like to turbosmooth the imported models, as I'm running into the shadow terminator bug raytracers suffer from, with low poly models and strong bump/normals, and because the silluettes look bad close up. It also breakes Smoothing. Even if I apply smoothing post subdivide, it just brakes and shades the model 100% flat, no matter the smoothing group or auto smooth with 180°.
Subdiv does not work, no matter what solution I come up with. It only subdivides the poly in it self, ignoring it's connection and angle of the polys it's connected to.
Is there a way to fix/work around this, without breaking the skin, bone and animation hierarchy?

Already tried: (WW) Weld verticies,(WW) Quadrify, import as one model/animated improt, static import, convert into all sorts of things, smooth, convert to editable/poly/mesh and some other random stuff.
Images in next post:
(image 5), (image 6), (image 7), (image 8 )

Quote from: pito2901 on January 18, 2016, 06:00:19 AM
Hi !

I'm new here and to Wallworm tool and I want to import a CSGO map into 3ds max.

But i'm also learning 3ds max and don't really know how to use it...

Can you give me the steps to import a map like de_inferno with Wallworm ?

steps to import, paths...

Thanks.

Wall Worm has a very extensive and detailed documentation for every feature there is.
Link to map import doc http://dev.wallworm.com/document/124/vmf_importer.html

Quote from: wallworm on January 13, 2016, 10:32:58 PM
Nothing built into WW for that. Why is that necessary?

Minor workflow stuff, doesn't matter if there is no one click solution.

Quote from: wallworm on January 06, 2016, 10:04:52 AM

I hope you like fixing bugs, just as much I like to find them :D

Pressing "Parse and Import" on the detail vbsp window crashes WW

Also, did trying decals on free version return anything? I'm currently working with a map of 79 infodecal entities. Meaning having to goto hammer, lookup texture, read texture dimesions, create plane from texture dimesions, apply material, rezise to dimensions and allign to broken infodecal WW proxy, 79 times D:

minor question: is it possible to remove the all WW attributes from all geometry and entities in 3dsmax? to clear them from everything in the modifier tab, that belongs to WW?

edit:Gah, scartch that, apperently updating to v2.759 fixed this!

Current Scene setup for an animation.
VMF importer did a darn fine job.

Still WIP.

Link to uncompressed version.

Quote from: wallworm on January 01, 2016, 03:15:54 PM
Here are my settings for CSGO. Note that if you do not have WW Pro, then anything with an asterisk is a difference, because in WW Pro things labeled with "MXS" force WW Pro to use the free addition functions. This means that without WW Pro, then Use MXS VMT Importer, MXS Entity Definitions and Use MAXScript VMF Exporter are on implicitly. So those are potential differences.

I have seen and tried it all, time to put it to rest.

The summary, for WallWorm Model Tools Free v2.754:

• Slow prop imports fixed
• Wrong Overlay Scale non uniform scale for tiled overlays fixed
• Despite multiple attempts, reinstalls, different paths, fgd's, settings and combination of all the mentioned, all infodecal entities never imported, assigned a material, read entity information or exported, despite you proving it worked on your machine (also tried different sourcesdk versions and the csgo setup you had)
• Since the Displacement update in the dev build, all consequent updates 100% broke viewport displacement imports. No matter the Displacement shader settings, 100% of the time broken, black, but does have geometry, a material and all propeties set correctly. The Renderer sees it correctly aswell. All Dx9 and Dx11 nitrous, no matter the API, all broken
• NEW Bug since v2.754: Ticking or Unticking "Legacy Mat Names" under Legacy settings crashes MaxScript and thus bricks WW until the next 3dsMax restart, see Screenshot

That's about it. I shall reinstall and stetup WW one last time and just work around the (for me) broken decals and Displacements.
One last question:
Is there a way to free the displacement geometry from it's shader? No matter what I do (convert to editable poly, apply New material, apply non standart material from other renderer, do multiple show in viewport options) it always stays black, if I dont revert to the pre-blackmesa shader update. So basicly just get the goddamn verticies in a quick conversion process.

Quote from: wallworm on December 29, 2015, 12:24:33 PM
But I don't see a Displacement material.

Well, I hope I dont bother you to death ^^
Removed and reinstalled 3dsmax 2015, with sp3
Tried all 3 Displacement shader settings - 100% black displacements

Decals still don't import. Never did. No Material being created.
Could you maybe show the setup of your ww settings? Maybe its some magic comination on fgd's and or binary folder settings, that prevents Decals from creating geometry and material.

Dev version, aswell as 29.12 Official version tested. Sad news only :|
Happy almost 2016, may the new year bring joy to you and your family.

I'm off sacrifcing baby kittens to the code bug gods. May their wrath be silenced.

Quote from: wallworm on December 29, 2015, 12:24:33 PM
What I need is the Displacement Shader that WW creates for your displacements.

There is no such shader created apperently

Quote from: wallworm on December 29, 2015, 12:24:33 PM
That decal material looks correct. But I don't see a Displacement material.

But it never ever workes, so frustrating, especially since you got it to work on the small decal test map, it just never works for me, no matter the setup, even rebuilt the material src again, still.
The one in the screen shot isgenerated from material library generator, but it doesnt generate on import or appl or create decal geometry

Screenyshotty.

Quote from: wallworm on December 28, 2015, 10:16:25 PM
Then I imported the level. Below is what popped up.

I dont understand it, I do exactly as you O.o
When generating Material library, I can generate for decals aswell, they just dont import and dont create geometry, the actual step thats needed.

Displacements black, directX material works, will do some screenshots.

Ahh, cant roll back anymore, so black displacements remain for me in this version.
Deleted older WW version to compare.
Small decal testmap included.
www.saires.de/small_decal_testmap.zip

Quote from: wallworm on December 28, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
Decals not importing a texture is something I'll need to look at. In my tests, the decal textures have imported fine.

In mine, they have yet to import a texture even once ;_;
I'll make a small test map with five decals. Not onve did a texture parameter land in max.

Quote from: wallworm on December 28, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
When you select the displacement's material in Slate, what materials show up?

It's on Nitrous DX11, never changed it.
It stopped working once you updated it.
It stays black, no matter if I apply new materials to it, no matter if I select or deselect it. The geometry is cursed!

Quote from: wallworm on December 26, 2015, 09:46:49 PMYou'll have to advise me.

The Top beers are Radeberger, Oettinger and Hasseröder. But only just because they are established brands. Advising on taste is damn near imbossible, since people rarely agree on what good beer taste is.

It took me some time to realise, that the vmts are taken not from the materialsrc path, but from where the game info txt is, so the actual mod folder. This was nowhere cleary specified. So instead editing vmts and being kicked due to sv_pure 1, I copied the mod, and ran a notepad++ replace for ".vmt" Worked like a charm.

Quote from: wallworm on December 27, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
should no longer freeze up Max.

Now using Import props from scenen enttities works correctly and build a library like it should.
Everything works fine, exept Decals still not importing materials and displacements remaining black no matter what.